Since their return, Joel Cook and Brandon Rike of TNSN DVSN (link: https://tensiondivision.com) have been collaborating with Underoath to create some of the most stunning visuals and conceptual presentations for the band that include Grammy Nominated projects, live streams and more. Erase Me, Observatory, and Voyeurist have all pushed the limits and set new precedents visually in both the physical space and across the bands digital footprint. In this conversation with Joel Cook and Tim Mctauge we explore the mechanics and thinking that empowers the small tight knit group to accomplish so much.