Patrick and I recorded this Tuesday at the Thirsty Bear Brewery, next door to Moscone Center where the Apple Worldwide Developer Conference was in full swing. We spoke with iPodderX developers August Trometer and Ray Slakinski (who met each other for the first time two days ago) to talk about the developers' reactions to the MacIntel announcement, and how they feel about Apple moving in on their territory with the new podcatching capabilities of iTunes 4.9.