On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Pastor Deborah Manns, Senior Pastor of Ruach Christian Community Fellowship Church in Los Angeles. She is also the CEO and founder of Virtuous Woman Inc. In this fun exchange, Jesse and Pastor Manns discuss what it's like to be a female pastor, as well as how she leans when it comes to politics. They also tackle her work to help young women who have had a rough start in life.