Rich is about to hit 53, but at least he's back in the big time with a major TV opportunity as a snookerist. His guest is ex-rockabilly drummer Jo Caulfield. They chat about messing up your one line on a TV show, a drama student taking method acting too far, living in squats, how Dolly Parton gets it right, when to throw out your cereal bowls, the hell of playing zoom quizzes with your family, an unlikely alliance with Neville Southall and how and why Jo got banned and reinstated on Twitter.