Rich has received his first hand-written Father's Day card, which might also have been a break-up note. His guest is the Chortle Student Comedian of the year 2005, Nathan Caton. They chat about having to spend time with your partner in lockdown, plucking defeat from the jaws of victory in Mastermind, producing a topical podcast looking at only good news (listen here https://audioboom.com/channels/5024060), being a Christian comedian, giving up architecture for a life on stage, whether white lives matter and TV producers are racist. Plus a brilliant video that shows clearly if you have privilege (https://twitter.com/NathanCaton/status/1268201190162149376). Come and check out Richard's Twitch channel - there's all sorts going on http://twitch.tv/rkherring