An actually wild episode! There was emotional ping-ponging all over the place, from the heavy to the downright chaotic, but what’s life without a little balance anyway? Hollie kicks things off by reflecting on Elowen’s chat with Kelnys, and the balance between what is necessary and what simply makes sense. She talks about Elowen’s time in The Web, how long she spent there, her role, and just how harrowing it was, and the impact that has left on her. At this point, Hollie’s pretty sure she knows Elowen better than anyone. We also talk about ridiculous stories, Dolly and that drum, being a good wizard, and how freedom can sometimes be its own kind of danger. Oh, and in case you were wondering, she still hates magic.