Prepare yourself for an impressive instant this week, when poet Ben Kline joins us on the podcast. We discuss Ben's Madonna Journey, how he got into writing poetry and he graces us with a very special Madonna-centric poem titled "Waiting for a Drowned World I Find (a Cento)." Originally from Cincinnati, Ohio, Ben, a lifelong Madonna fan, took up yoga before M made it cool and will fight you over the artistic merit of American Life. His chapbook SAGITTARIUS A* will be published in fall 2020 by Sibling Rivalry Press.