Christian author, speaker, blogger Jen Hatmaker hikes with Kevin Nealon along the Colorado River in Austin, TX. Jen chats about wearing many hats including being a preacher, the drinking in Austin, dealing with injuries, never canceling her shows, her astounding female following, cheering women on to their highest potential, the Collective Legacy, her husband, Brandon, growing up the daughter of a preacher, her amazing parents, taking a stance against the church and welcoming the LGBTQ community, the consequences she and her husband endured, receiving hate mail and death threats, rebounding from that and now thriving in every way, meeting new friends from that experience, the backward approach to communities in the deep South, paddle boarding, regretting wearing jean overalls when she was pregnant, making her bed, keeping her maiden name, Texas being very into itself, her podcast, 'For The Love,' her interview with Melinda Gates plus more.