Why it is that men and women are still so angry with each other? Robert Bly and Chantal Westerman discuss how and why patriarchy has been damaging to both men and woman over the years, and its effect on family and society. Bly also talks about what he calls “the flattening of the culture,” and the problems that arise when there no longer exists a hierarchy or vertical line of respect for the important people in our immediate lives and society.