This week, Father Cooper is joined by Nick Viall and Natalie Joy. But first, Alex has a solo chat with Nick and the two obviously have to discuss…Bachelor Nation. Nick reflects back on his time in the franchise, his transition into podcasting and offers up some dating advice of his own. Once Natalie joins the discussion we learn how their relationship began and how she played every move correctly - without being toxic! Now two years into their relationship Nick and Natalie have some things figured out and offer up advice on how to navigate arguments, overcome lulls in sex, and work through any baggage from previous relationships. While opening up Nick describes the vulnerable feeling of being “all in” in a relationship…and maybe even sheds a tear?! Enjoy!