Douglas Brinkley and Carolyn Barta talked about independent presidential candidate H. Ross Perot (b. 1930). Professor Barta participated from her home in Dallas as they talked about his campaigns and responded to telephone calls and electronic communications. In 1992, businessman Ross Perot won almost 19 percent of the popular vote as an independent presidential candidate. In 1996 he campaigned under the Reform Party USA. His platform included balanced budgets, health care reform, personal spending, income disparity, job exportation, campaign finance reform, and dissatisfaction with the two main political parties. Video clips included Larry King, Molly Ivins, Ed Rollins, Al Gore, and impersonators as well as Ross Perot in debates, speeches, ads, and interviews.